November 6, 2013

__Sergeant Friday Questions a Treasury Spokeswoman – Just the Facts, Ma’am__**Sergeant Friday**: What has been the behavior of

*total*federal outlays in the past five fiscal years?

**Treasury Spokeswoman**: As shown in Chart 1, the year-over-year change in federal outlays ballooned to 17.9% in FY 2009 because of the sharp increase in income security expenditures (e.g., unemployment insurance benefits, food stamps) due to the most severe recession since the early 1930s, TARP expenditures to recapitalize our financial system and a fiscal stimulus program.

**Sergeant Friday**: Just the facts, ma’am. I did not ask you

*why*total federal outlays ballooned in FY 2009.

**Treasury Spokeswoman:**Okay. In three of the subsequent four years following FY 2009, total

*federal outlays*

*contracted*, by 1.7%, 1.8% and 2.3% in FY years 2010, 2012 and 2013, respectively.

Chart 1

**Sergeant Friday**: Prior to this recent experience, when was the last time total federal outlays contracted and by what percentage?

**Treasury Spokeswoman**: 1965, by 0.25%.

**Sergeant Friday**: And before that?

**Treasury Spokesperson**: 1954 and 1955, by 6.9% and 3.4%, respectively.

**Sergeant Friday**: In the five fiscal years ended 2013, what was the compound annualized rate of growth in total federal outlays?

**Treasury Spokeswoman**: Even with the ballooning in FY 2009 outlays, the compound annualized growth in total federal outlays in the past five years has been

*just*3.0%, rounded to the first decimal place.

**Sergeant Friday**: Again, please no editorializing. Just the facts, ma’am. How do the most recent fiscal years compare with the past 60 years?

**Treasury Spokeswoman**: The data are shown in Chart 2, starting with the compound annualized growth in total federal outlays in the five years ended 1954. The median five-year annualized growth rate over this 60-year period was 6.6%. Previous to the five years ended 2013, the last time the annualized growth in total federal outlays was as low as 3.0% was in the five years ended 1997. To find five-year compound annual growth in total federal outlays as low as 3.0% or less prior to 1997, you would have to go all the way back to the five years ended 1957 and 1958, with annualized growth rates of 2.5% and 1.6%, respectively.

Chart 2

**Sergeant Friday:**Given the sharp deceleration in growth of total federal outlays in the past five fiscal years, I would assume that there has been a corresponding sharp deceleration in the growth of total federal debt. Right?

**Treasury Spokeswoman:**There has been a deceleration in the growth of total federal debt in the past five years, but, forgive me for editorializing, I would hardly describe the deceleration as “sharp”.

**Sergeant Friday:**I’ll be the judge of what constitutes a sharp deceleration. Just give me the facts, ma’am.

**Treasury Spokeswoman:**Okay. Chart 3 shows the five-year compound annualized rate of growth in total federal debt for the years 1954 through 2013. I have included in the chart the five-year compound annualized growth in total federal outlays for purposes of comparison. In the five years ended FY 2013, total federal debt grew at a compound annualized rate of 10.8%, down from 12.3% in the five years ended FY 2012. Someone as perceptive as you will notice that whilst (I worked at the UK Treasury before coming to the U.S. Treasury) growth in total federal outlays reached a local peak in the five years ended FY 2009, growth in total federal debt continued to rise until FY 2013. A similar phenomenon occurred in the mid 1980s when growth in total federal debt continued to move higher

*after*growth in total federal outlays had begun moving lower.

Chart 3

**Sergeant Friday:**Interesting. Please add in the five-year compound annualized growth (CAG) of total federal receipts to what you have in Chart 3.

**Treasury Spokesperson:**(He really is a perceptive fellow!) The blue line in Chart 4 shows the five-year compound annualized growth rate of total federal receipts. In the five years ended FY 2013, total federal receipts grew at a compound annualized rate of

*just*1.9%. After peaking at a compound annualized growth rate of 15.0% in the five years ended 1981, growth in total federal outlays has been oscillating lower. In the 12 fiscal years from 2002 through 2013, on only two occasions, 2007 and 2008, was the five-year compound annualized growth in total federal revenues greater than that of total federal outlays. In only one of those years was the five-year compound annualized growth in total revenues, at 7.2%, higher than the 1954 – 2013 median growth rate of 7.1%. From 2002 through 2013, on only one occasion was the five-year compound annualized growth in total federal outlays, at 8.9%, higher than the 1954 – 2013 median growth rate of 7.7%.

Chart 4

**Sergeant Friday:**Thank you for your factual information. You may leave now.

**Treasury Spokeswoman:**I’m here to serve the public. I’ll be on my way now.

**Sergeant Friday:**The word on the street is that Washington has a

*spending problem*. If the “spending problem” reference is to the

*growth*in federal spending, the word on the street must be an

*opinion*. The facts don’t support this opinion. In three of the past four fiscal years, total federal spending has

*contracted*. In the five years ended FY 2013, the compound annualized rate of growth in total federal spending was 3.0%, 470 basis points

*below*the five-year annualized median growth rate over the past 60 years.

The
word on the street is that Washington has a

*federal debt problem*. The facts*do*support the notion that growth in the federal debt is relatively high by historical standards. But the*facts*also show that the relatively high rate of growth in the federal debt in the past five years is due to the historically*low*rate of growth in total federal*receipts*. In the five years ended FY 2013, the compound annualized rate of growth in total federal receipts was 1.9%, 520 basis points*below*the five-year annualized median growth over the past 60 years.
Having
reviewed the Treasury spokeswoman’s data, I am reminded of Daniel Patrick
Moynihan’s comment that everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his
own facts.

Paul
L. Kasriel

Econtrarian,
LLC

1-920-818-0236

If you look at a chart of actual outlays, instead of their growth rate, this fact check seems insignificant. http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/FYONET/

ReplyDeleteYes, back in 1901, total federal outlays were only $525 million compared with $3.0 trillion in 2008 and $3.5 trillion in 2013. So, by all means, let us not take note that in the 107 years ended 2008, total federal outlays grew at a compound annual rate of 8.4% only to slow to a compound annual rate of 3.0% in the five years ended 2013. Perhaps Mr. Gercke would recommend that total federal outlays should have been pared in the past five years to in order to get back to their 1901 level at the end of 2013.

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yes, from 2 trillion just 10 years ago to 3.5 now, or 75% more belies the argument. which thus also illustrates the flat uselessness of the whole "you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts" meme. Characterization of the facts is a powerful influence on the state of the facts.

ReplyDeleteAccording to Treasury Dept. facts, the point-to-point simple (not annualized) percent change in total federal outlays in the 10 years ended 2013 was 59.9%, not 75%. 59.9% over a 10-year period is the equivalent of 4.8% on a compound annualized basis, the manner in which I presented multi-year percentage changes. I chose to present my changes in the form of compound annualized growth rates because I had also presented some year-over-year percentage changes and I wanted all of my percentage changes on the same basis -- annualized.

ReplyDeleteNow, let's put your 59.9% into some historical perspectives. In the 10 years ended 2003, the point-to-point simple percentage change was "only" 53.3%. Using 10-year point-to-point simple percentage changes, starting with the 10 years ended 1911 through the 10 years ended 2013, the median change was 115.1%. So yes, the 59.9% point-to-point percentage change in total federal outlays in the 10 years ended 2013 was "big", but it was only 52% of the long-run median percentage change.

Now, I do not know why you chose to look at a 10 year period. But the reason I chose to examine a five-year period is because a certain grass-roots political movement that alleged that federal government spending was out of control emerged in 2009-2010. In the five years ended 2013, the point-to-point simple percentage change in total federal outlays was 15.8%. To put this in perspective, in the five years ended 2008, the point-to-point simple percentage change in total federal outlays was 38.1%. From the five years ended 1906 through the five years ended 2013, the median point-to-point simple percentage change in total federal outlays was 37.6%. My question to this grass-roots political movement is what took it so long to get enraged in the federal government's largesse? Where was the outrage in 2008?

These are the facts, Mr. Bergerson. You are certainly entitled to your opinion about them.

Paul Kasriel

Once again, a very informative post. Thanks for sharing!

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